1 00:00:17,220 --> 00:00:14,850 this year the museum is honoring the 2 00:00:18,769 --> 00:00:17,230 40th anniversary of the Apollo 8 mission 3 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:18,779 and the accomplishments of its crew 4 00:00:25,230 --> 00:00:22,770 Frank Borman Jim Lovell and Bill Anders 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:25,240 not just because of the occasion tonight 6 00:00:28,740 --> 00:00:27,130 but I've said this repeatedly I think 7 00:00:32,130 --> 00:00:28,750 the Apollo 8 mission is one of the most 8 00:00:35,070 --> 00:00:32,140 important missions of the whole NASA 9 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:35,080 experience and I don't say that just 10 00:00:38,580 --> 00:00:36,730 because we're here tonight it was a very 11 00:00:42,119 --> 00:00:38,590 very unusual mission about which will 12 00:00:44,660 --> 00:00:42,129 hear a lot later on the mission departed 13 00:00:48,270 --> 00:00:44,670 December 21st and returned December 28 14 00:00:51,390 --> 00:00:48,280 1968 he was the first time that humans 15 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:51,400 left the vicinity of Earth and traveled 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:55,120 to another world and i think the things 17 00:00:59,070 --> 00:00:57,370 that will have will hear them describe 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:00:59,080 this evening will show what faith they 19 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:00,970 had in the engineers and the people they 20 00:01:04,410 --> 00:01:02,470 were working with and the crew and the 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:04,420 team and the equipment and everything 22 00:01:09,450 --> 00:01:07,450 else and we will be hearing a great deal 23 00:01:12,380 --> 00:01:09,460 about the mission but let me just set 24 00:01:16,529 --> 00:01:12,390 the stage with a few historical facts 25 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:16,539 Apollo 8 was not originally planned as a 26 00:01:22,590 --> 00:01:19,750 moon mission NASA's plan was to do an 27 00:01:26,069 --> 00:01:22,600 earth orbital mission but in September 28 00:01:29,010 --> 00:01:26,079 1968 the Soviets ends on 52 pass by the 29 00:01:31,740 --> 00:01:29,020 moon it carried and returned to earth a 30 00:01:34,679 --> 00:01:31,750 payload of turtles wine flies and 31 00:01:36,539 --> 00:01:34,689 mealworms now that's quite a character 32 00:01:40,349 --> 00:01:36,549 now I don't know there's a similarity 33 00:01:42,929 --> 00:01:40,359 between those three types of cargos and 34 00:01:45,149 --> 00:01:42,939 the ones that occurred later on when the 35 00:01:46,620 --> 00:01:45,159 u.s. sent them up or not but Borman 36 00:01:48,599 --> 00:01:46,630 Lovell and Anders were a step up from 37 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:48,609 Turtles wine flies and mealworms there's 38 00:01:54,330 --> 00:01:52,810 no doubt about that and it carried when 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:54,340 it brought them back to earth of course 40 00:02:00,239 --> 00:01:56,770 the USSR repeated the feat in November 41 00:02:02,010 --> 00:02:00,249 was on six the space race competition at 42 00:02:04,739 --> 00:02:02,020 land humans on the moon the goal set by 43 00:02:07,739 --> 00:02:04,749 president kennedy in 61 seem to be 44 00:02:09,570 --> 00:02:07,749 heating up considerably and after the 45 00:02:12,030 --> 00:02:09,580 successful earth orbit mission of Apollo 46 00:02:14,869 --> 00:02:12,040 7 the time seemed right for a boulder or 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:14,879 risk your mission a voyage to the moon 48 00:02:19,850 --> 00:02:18,370 reportedly even the Apollo 8 astronauts 49 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:19,860 rated their chances of 50 00:02:25,910 --> 00:02:22,890 said no better than 5050 they're willing 51 00:02:30,020 --> 00:02:25,920 to go before Apollo 8 the u.s. had flown 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:30,030 only 17 missions in space only 17 and 53 00:02:35,870 --> 00:02:33,450 only 22 different astronauts before that 54 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:35,880 had gained space flight experience of 55 00:02:41,570 --> 00:02:38,610 those Apollo 8 commander Frank Borman 56 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:41,580 and command module pilot Jim Lovell had 57 00:02:46,670 --> 00:02:43,410 flown more hours than any other 58 00:02:48,890 --> 00:02:46,680 astronauts indeed together they had more 59 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:48,900 hours than all Soviet cosmonauts 60 00:02:54,350 --> 00:02:52,110 combined they flew together on Gemini 7 61 00:02:56,300 --> 00:02:54,360 a two-week endurance test in which they 62 00:02:59,390 --> 00:02:56,310 lived together in a cabin the size of a 63 00:03:01,340 --> 00:02:59,400 Volkswagen Beetle after recovery Jim 64 00:03:05,930 --> 00:03:01,350 Lovell joked I want to announce our 65 00:03:07,970 --> 00:03:05,940 engagement it's my understanding to from 66 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:07,980 rumors going around that the sanitary 67 00:03:15,290 --> 00:03:09,750 conditions would not have passed ocean 68 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:15,300 minimums they were ready for Apollo 8 so 69 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:17,010 too was Bill Anders William Anders 70 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:19,650 making his very first light grads with 71 00:03:23,090 --> 00:03:21,570 the Naval Academy and experienced pilot 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:23,100 recipient of a master's degree in 73 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:25,890 nuclear engineering he served as lunar 74 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:27,090 module pilot for the mission 75 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:28,799 unfortunately for him the mission did 76 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:31,530 not carry a lunar module engineering 77 00:03:36,620 --> 00:03:33,590 problems had delayed its availability 78 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:36,630 but then this next statement may be a 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:38,940 little bit controversial to some of the 80 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:41,610 crew beside Bill Anders but as Apollo 8 81 00:03:45,770 --> 00:03:44,190 orbited the moon bill had to be content 82 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:45,780 with making one of the most historic 83 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:47,640 photographs of the 20th century the 84 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:49,590 incomparable image of the earth rising 85 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:52,230 over the lunar surface there'll be a 86 00:03:57,740 --> 00:03:55,350 little contention on that perhaps the 87 00:04:01,300 --> 00:03:57,750 public build-up to Apollo 8 was 88 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:01,310 tremendous a worldwide audience 89 00:04:06,050 --> 00:04:04,620 anticipated the mission lost just before 90 00:04:07,699 --> 00:04:06,060 the Christmas holidays the mission 91 00:04:10,310 --> 00:04:07,709 ballast the tension of the space race 92 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:10,320 with a transcendent feeling that the 93 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:12,209 accomplishment was truly for all 94 00:04:17,259 --> 00:04:15,510 humanity live television broadcast by 95 00:04:19,460 --> 00:04:17,269 the astronauts while orbiting the moon 96 00:04:22,130 --> 00:04:19,470 brought the adventure to almost a 97 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:22,140 quarter of all people living on earth by 98 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:25,530 best estimates and the very memorable 99 00:04:29,420 --> 00:04:27,960 Christmas Eve scripture reading is 100 00:04:31,339 --> 00:04:29,430 something that none of us had heard that 101 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:31,349 at that time I including many of you 102 00:04:35,559 --> 00:04:31,969 here 103 00:04:37,329 --> 00:04:35,569 will ever ever forget the success of the 104 00:04:41,350 --> 00:04:37,339 mission paved the way a few months later 105 00:04:43,539 --> 00:04:41,360 for Apollo 11 for neo buzz Mike going to 106 00:04:45,369 --> 00:04:43,549 the moon landing of humans on the moon 107 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:45,379 fulfilling President Kennedy's challenge 108 00:04:50,679 --> 00:04:48,289 to the nation so it's really my pleasure 109 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:50,689 not only to be here tonight but to look 110 00:04:54,999 --> 00:04:52,849 forward to hearing some of the 111 00:04:57,789 --> 00:04:55,009 recounting of what happened on Apollo 8 112 00:05:00,549 --> 00:04:57,799 it's my pleasure to welcome the Apollo 8 113 00:05:02,559 --> 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Martin Collins 114 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:02,569 curator in the museum's division of 115 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:26,200 maybe a place to begin here is to ask 116 00:05:31,450 --> 00:05:29,210 Frank to to to give us a little bit of a 117 00:05:34,990 --> 00:05:31,460 sense of how the idea for the Apollo 8 118 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:35,000 mission began on how it sort of took 119 00:05:42,190 --> 00:05:37,730 shape in the months of the summer months 120 00:05:44,020 --> 00:05:42,200 of 1968 Thank You Martin and thank you 121 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:44,030 all for being here John for your 122 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:47,900 generous introduction I we were assigned 123 00:05:55,210 --> 00:05:51,500 to the excuse me third Apollo mission 124 00:05:57,850 --> 00:05:55,220 was supposed to been a a long duration 125 00:05:59,350 --> 00:05:57,860 relatively long durations exercising the 126 00:06:02,200 --> 00:05:59,360 lunar module and command module and 127 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:02,210 Earth orbit out to 8,000 miles and then 128 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:04,490 in December while we were out at at 129 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:07,810 downey california going through the 130 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:10,130 systems with the spacecraft i got a call 131 00:06:16,630 --> 00:06:13,280 from deke slayton our boss who said come 132 00:06:19,180 --> 00:06:16,640 back we've had a change in plans and he 133 00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:19,190 formed me that the CIA had informed NASA 134 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:22,070 that they would be a probably be a 135 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:23,750 Soviet attempt to go around the moon 136 00:06:27,460 --> 00:06:25,700 before the end of the year and they 137 00:06:28,690 --> 00:06:27,470 wanted to know if we could this was in 138 00:06:31,540 --> 00:06:28,700 August they want to know if we could 139 00:06:34,750 --> 00:06:31,550 change our mission training and be able 140 00:06:36,490 --> 00:06:34,760 to go I immediately said yes because I 141 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:36,500 knew that billing and Jim would have a 142 00:06:40,690 --> 00:06:38,450 you know we're dying for the chance to 143 00:06:42,910 --> 00:06:40,700 do this and then we came back and and 144 00:06:45,580 --> 00:06:42,920 we've had the outline of what happened 145 00:06:49,780 --> 00:06:45,590 after that but interestingly enough the 146 00:06:51,550 --> 00:06:49,790 the saga of Apollo 8 really should begin 147 00:06:55,420 --> 00:06:51,560 of Apollo program should begin with a 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:55,430 fire in January of 1967 to kill three 149 00:07:01,000 --> 00:06:57,170 astronauts through the whole program 150 00:07:04,210 --> 00:07:01,010 into disarray and out of that out of 151 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:04,220 that terrible tragedy I'm convinced came 152 00:07:10,090 --> 00:07:07,610 the the genesis of Apollo program that 153 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:10,100 was so successful part of the decision 154 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:13,130 that was made when Frank went to Houston 155 00:07:17,890 --> 00:07:15,650 and Bill a man bill and I were still out 156 00:07:22,420 --> 00:07:17,900 at downey wondering what happened to 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:22,430 Frank was the fact that the decision 158 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:24,970 would go on Apollo 8 to the moon if 159 00:07:32,140 --> 00:07:29,120 Apollo 7 was successful so in reality 160 00:07:34,540 --> 00:07:32,150 that flight proved the improvements 161 00:07:37,780 --> 00:07:34,550 of the command module from the 162 00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:37,790 disastrous fire that we had in 1967 and 163 00:07:43,660 --> 00:07:40,310 that was the spur that allowed us to 164 00:07:46,030 --> 00:07:43,670 make that final decision after Apollo 7 165 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:46,040 to say yes let's go although we were 166 00:07:51,310 --> 00:07:48,110 training for the moon or lunar mission 167 00:07:53,410 --> 00:07:51,320 prior to the Apollo 7 flight and that 168 00:07:55,930 --> 00:07:53,420 flight was successful because Frank you 169 00:07:59,530 --> 00:07:55,940 know spend an awful lot of time making 170 00:08:02,380 --> 00:07:59,540 sure that command module was safe you 171 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:02,390 know John was awful generous and saying 172 00:08:06,790 --> 00:08:04,490 how important Apollo it wasn't then and 173 00:08:08,860 --> 00:08:06,800 then bill just mentioned Apollo 7 being 174 00:08:10,810 --> 00:08:08,870 so important but in reality every damn 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:10,820 flight was important you know think 176 00:08:17,190 --> 00:08:12,650 think of John Glenn sitting on top of an 177 00:08:19,450 --> 00:08:17,200 ICBM really an aluminum inner tube 178 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:19,460 because it wouldn't it wouldn't hold it 179 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:21,200 without air is not correct you had to 180 00:08:25,750 --> 00:08:22,250 have pressure in that thing I get a 181 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:25,760 clamp so NASA's program wasn't haphazard 182 00:08:30,250 --> 00:08:27,890 it didn't just it didn't just happen it 183 00:08:32,470 --> 00:08:30,260 was planned every step of the way and it 184 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:32,480 was remarkable oh that it worked I think 185 00:08:36,790 --> 00:08:35,210 I honestly believe that God was was 186 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:36,800 shining on us from there from the very 187 00:08:42,670 --> 00:08:39,250 beginning we had to start learning the 188 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:42,680 the lunar surface of the Moon stop 189 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:45,710 ography to see the various craters and 190 00:08:48,940 --> 00:08:47,090 this is one of interesting because we 191 00:08:51,610 --> 00:08:48,950 brought in people who were familiar with 192 00:08:53,980 --> 00:08:51,620 that to teach us some of the initial 193 00:08:58,060 --> 00:08:53,990 points because the mission of Apollo II 194 00:09:01,480 --> 00:08:58,070 was really to check the navigation and 195 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:01,490 to check for suitable landing spots the 196 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:03,440 flat areas the Mari of the sea that 197 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:06,200 would give the people who would attempt 198 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:07,970 the first landing the greatest chance of 199 00:09:12,250 --> 00:09:10,040 survival and consequently our 200 00:09:14,230 --> 00:09:12,260 photography and looking around all those 201 00:09:17,830 --> 00:09:14,240 flat areas like the Sea of Tranquility 202 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:17,840 which model 11 eventually landed on that 203 00:09:23,260 --> 00:09:20,240 that was one of our missions and that 204 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:23,270 was part of our training and also we had 205 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:26,510 to do things that in a three-dimensional 206 00:09:30,460 --> 00:09:29,150 effect navigation was one of them 207 00:09:32,860 --> 00:09:30,470 because we are not going around the 208 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:32,870 earth anymore we are going to have to 209 00:09:38,980 --> 00:09:36,170 test out of the navigation system on the 210 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:38,990 way to the moon to say how accurate it